After about a month of doing random tests to build links and get my scraper sites indexed and ranking well in Google I have gathered some results. For all the work I have done to these sites the results look sucky, but I now know what works and what dosen’t. I suggest you do your own god damn tests for your own sites, but here are my results..
Although I haven’t been doing SEO for that long, I am pretty good at it. Developer Hut runs purely off SEO terms, and so is my new network of scraper sites. What I am trying to do is find ways to make monies from the internets purely off seo with no costs for me, other than the tools I will be having built for me. The test I am doing right now is to see how well scraped content works and how well they rank for there long tailed keywords.
I have 22 heavily modded YACG sites.
1 = .net
3 = .org’s
4 = .com’s
14 = .info’s
One of my main conclusions is that the domain extension and age of the site is one of the biggest factors. The site that is doing the best is a deleted .com domain from 2005. The other site that is doing the best is the .net. The .info’s are doing decent, but you would need a lot of those to make up for the .com’s.
If I were to do this on a mass scale, I wouldn’t mind spending $xx,xxx on .com’s on domains. However, I won’t spend that much money if the domains get kicked out of google only after 2 month’s of being in the SERPS. Which leads me to my next point..
..Trying to find a way to keep the little fuckers in the SERPS. I know I could make so much money if I could make them stay in the serps for years on end, just image having 10,000 .info scraper sites each making at least .05 each. Thats $500 a day. I could live off that. But the fact of the matter is that the websites content is scraped, and the methods of getting the sites in the serps are blackhat, which leads to the sites only staying in the serps for a few months.
This will be my biggest obstacle. Finding a way to keep the sites in the serps. I have asked around and it seems like everyone on the getyacg.com forum sites get banned after a few months, however I know some other people that found a way to keep there sites in the serps. But of course they wont tell me how they do it, which makes me go back to the drawing board. I’ll make a blog post about this later.
Back to the stats. I have 22 sites, and after a month there are about 500 pages out of 23,000 in the serps. The sites with 0 backlinks have an average of 25 pages in the serps. The sites with a few backlinks have 100 plus. I have one site that has about 300 backlinks in the serps, but I got 3 blog comment backlinks for that website.
Sorry I wont tell you all my methods for getting the sites in the serps, but I will tell you that I squirt each site, and then I digg each site as well. I then add the links to the digg posts to a rollover site map with authority. Pretty basic.
What I am working on now is having a small network of whitehat rollover sites with authority that randomly grabs pages from the network of scraper sites. Its gonna take a lot of work to make enough rollover websites that will take care of the thousands of scraper sites each with thousands of pages on them, but its doable.
I also need to test how well interlinking works with these sites. Maybe have a few links in the footer that are dynamic that randomly grabs pages out of a database full of urls from the scarper sites? Dunno but need to test that shit.
And sense Im not a programmer it leads me to my next point. If you are a programmer and LOVES to work and party, we have an extra room in the basement callin your name, lol. We already have a designer… and we will make ya rich!
OK back to the numbers, after many hours of work, I have gotten my network of 22 sites pulling in about 100 unquies a day, all from seo and the diggs. And that has made me about 20$ or so, which is about 2$ a day. Yay haha.
Welp Im back to building links and shit for other sites I have been working on, like Sean Kingston and Paramore. Thanks for listening to my random ass rambling..
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Great info. Thanks.
How do host the sites? Under one reseller account or multiple host accounts?
Sorry. How do you host the sites?
Jon, this is just my opinion and I know you didn’t ask for it. I think building scrapers is not the way to go. Even if it’s all automated, the SE deck is still stacked against you. You are working your ass off for pennies. I think you should take a step back from the dark side. What I mean by that is update Loseralliance (it’s beginning to look a bit oldskool) get new layouts, etc. I don’t know how well your other sites are doing now since you never mention them much any more, but I think you have to go back producing quality that banks. I just think quality sites are the gift that keep on giving without as much constant work.
Why not just try doing SEO with parked domains? Whats the difference?
you’ve created 22 sites and made 20 bucks.
Even if you make $0.05 a day per site you’re unlikely to cover the cost of domains and hosting.
There has got to be a smarter way.
It takes time, the more pages I get indexed, the more money I make. I need to work on marketing more..
I built some pages on a .com just over a year ago, I still have over 6000 of the pages indexed. Pages on .info domains using the same builder, template and promotion methods lasted at most 2 months. Whilst thats hardly a scientific observation it does seem that .com gets treated differently to .info
Did you ever test subdomains like dyndns.dk or yi.org ? It worked great for me about 1 year ago. Thousands of uniques per day. Google kicked the domains every 2 weeks to 2 months but they are for free. But about 6 months ago it stopped working, don’t know if its because the subdomains or because of my homemade markov generator (I always used the same input).
this post is very valuable - thanks Jon!